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Obama a Muslim? So what?

18. September 2008 by John Henry 5 Comments
From Time Magazine, via http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20080918/us_time/maxedoutmoms

That sentiment is echoed by Beth Seidel, a factory worker in Cleveland who works the third shift so she can take her son to school and then to practices for the four sports he plays. Pausing recently at a Wal-Mart, she said: "Honestly, I don't know what to do. I really don't want to vote for McCain. You can tell he only cares about rich people. Sarah Palin wears glasses that cost $300. McCain's wife wears Gucci clothes. Which means they don't know anything about people like me." Into that stew of assumptions, she adds: "I hear that Obama's a Muslim. If he is a Muslim, that would be a problem, because the terrorists already attacked us." (He's not.)


Dear Beth Sidel and the rest of the "Obama's A Muslim" crowd:

I have a question to ask of you all.

Let's assume for a moment that Barack Obama really *is* a Muslim.  He prays toward Mecca five times a day and believes that Mohammed was the pen with which the Word of God was written.  It's not true, never has been, there's not the slightest shred of evidence that Obama ever so much as considered *being* a Muslim...but let's assume for a moment that he is.

This leaves us with a very important question.

So what?  Why is this important?  Why is it relevant to the man's leadership skills or vision for this country?

And furthermore, why is it such a problem for one person to be a member of a religion with fundamentalist elements that are far removed from sanity, but perfectly okay for another? 

I've *been* to Pentacostal churches.  Some of my people are Pentacostal.  Have you ever seen human beings "speaking in tongues?"  This is a sect that believes in taking the Bible literally - that every single word is the manifest Word of God, that contradictions are explained only by the reader's inability to understand what is written - and in the gift of prophecy, that He (and of course God is ALWAYS a "He" with these folks) will choose YOU as the Most Speshul Snowflake to use as his conduit for communicating with the world, if only you believe hard enough and have enough gibberish pouring forth from your tongue.  These are the people who believe that medical problems not just can, but *should* be resolved by the laying on of hands and the channeling of the Holy Spirit rather than a medical professional, apparently neglecting to consider that perhaps medical science is *also* a 'gift from God.'

This is the religion of Pat Robertson, who blamed 9-11 on America's tolerance for homosexuality and abortion.

While I recognize that as with any large sect, there is a spectrum, rather than a point, that defines beliefs and doctrine, at the same time it must be considered that even the least radical of the Pentacostal movement is quite some distance from the mainstream of modern thought.  I further recognize that in this great land of ours, each of us has the freedom to choose what we want to believe, and how, and it's not my intent or desire to suggest that anyone should be prevented from seeking elective office solely on the basis of their beliefs.  (Whether they intend to use their position to force others to adhere to those beliefs through the manipulation of public policy is another matter entirely.)

While it seems extreme to the point of absurdity that Pentacostal fundamentalism and radical Islamic fundamentalism share the same core beliefs...it's actually quite true, apart from the nature of the dieties they worship.  Both sects believe that they are the ordained and obedient servants of God; that nonbelievers should be punished and excised; that they alone are enlightened to the One True Path; that God bestows gifts upon them for their faith and devotion; that those who believe differently are hellbound sinners; and that they have a sort of charter from God to go into the world and convert as many people as possible to their way of thought. 

It may seem outrageous to suggest that Pentecostalists are as willing to kill or die for their religion as radical Islamists have proven to be...but then again, perhaps not so crazy, if one considers the war in Iraq a 'mission from God.'  Perhaps not so crazy, when the leading voice of the Pentecostal movement is so willing to ascribe the attacks of 9-11 as a judgement upon us from God in retribution for "the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America."  Perhaps not so outrageous when another leading light of the Pentecostal movement, Jimmy Swaggart, once said in an interview that if a gay man "looked at me like that, I'd kill him and tell God he died."

And I'm sure some of you are reading this and preparing to fire off vitriolic responses filled with righteous indignance...but when you throw away your local prejudice, there's not a whole lot of space in the gap between the kind of hate espoused by Robertson and the Pentecostal movement, and that espoused by the Mullahs of radical Islam.  Robertson is no more representative of Christianity than Osama bin Laden is of Islam, yet some of us have no problem tarring all Muslims with that brush, even as we object to any suggestion that the knife cuts with both edges.

So we come back to the question, so WHAT if Barack Obama were a Muslim?  He's not, and I'd like to say that nobody with half a brain believes he is, but apparently it's still a pretty common belief.  So What?  Why are we still being so stubborn, blind, and ignorant as to associate an entire religion with 1.5 BILLION adherents with the actions of a small, radical, hate-filled handful of them?  This is no more ridiculous than to assert that every Christian believes the same way Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church does, or that every Christian acts the same way a few Catholic priests have. 

There's no law preventing a Muslim - or an Atheist, or a Jainist, or a Taoist, or a Buddhist - from running for and being elected president.  Furthermore, there is no ethical or moral reason why anyone, of any religion, should be prevented from doing so, as long as they meet the constitutional requirements for the Presidency.

I find it disturbing and frightening that even now, more than seven years after 9-11, when we've all had plenty of opportunity to do our own research and gain our own understanding of Islam, to realize that not all Muslims are hate-mongers and terrorists any more than all Christians are bigots and murderers and pedophiles.  I would ask anyone who reads this to confront the next person who throws out the "Obama is a Muslim" tripe to resist the urge to simply deny it - these people obviously don't care about the facts anyway - but make them explain why it's a bad thing.  Make them confront their inner bigot and drag it out into the light of day, make them justify it.  See how long they can hold on to their irrational prejudices when they're forced to verbalize them.

I'll bet the majority don't last long.

An interesting final note: re-read this sentence.

"I hear that Obama's a Muslim. If he is a Muslim, that would be a problem, because the terrorists already attacked us."
I find this sentence fascinating because it's an actual real-time demonstration of someone making the (unsupportable) Islam = terror connection, which is poor enough logic of its own right, but then when you read the sentence entire, none of it makes the slightest bit of sense.

Comments

s15farley
United States s15farley said:

Wow, so, besides being completely one-sided and influenced beyond belief, you can't see the obvious. You're another ignorant Liberal. If he isn't Muslim, then why did he CHANGE his name to Barrack Hussein Obama? No, it's not his birth name. So give that idea up. His father was a baptist. They don't know they're children Muslim names. Secondly, do you not remember the ENORMOUS media attention he got for REFUSING to be sworn in on the Bible? How he HAD to be sworn in on the Qu'ran? Or are you blocking that memory? Or how about the fact that he threatened anyone who posted pictures or videos of his Inauguration to being a senator that showed him actually putting his hand on the book with lawsuits? Or maybe the fact that he NEVER votes for ANY bills? During his term as a senator he voted on 2 H.B.'s and NEVER put up a bill proposition of his own.... So go on, prove to me that your intelligence on the matter is superior. Go on, I'm waiting. I can even guess what you're going to say "Oh, well you're just stupid republican or conservative." Or at least something along those lines. You will incorrectly judge my political leanings and call me a Xenophobe (for believing that a Muslim should NEVER be allowed to run our country) and a Racist (because Obama should NEVER be allowed to run it either). Well, so we're clear, I am in no way Xenophobic. Quite the opposite. And in no way am I Racist. Truth be told, I want McCain to get elected and keel over. Then Palin would be president, and, by most liklihood, Condaleeza Rice would become VP. We'd have 2 WOMEN is office. And one of black to boot! And so we're clear, I'm a Libertarian. I'm writing Ron Paul.

lowgenius
United States lowgenius said:

I find your assertions interesting...in much the same way that I find bigfoot sightings and allegations that the US government intentionally destroyed the world trade center interesting.

But, I'm nothing if not fair.  Let's take your assertions one at a time.  First, the issue of the man's name being "changed."

fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

That is Barack Obama's birth certificate.  You'll note that his father's name is also Barack Hussein Obama; he is actually Barack Hussein Obama II.

Now let's discuss this swearing in on the Koran nonsense.  In a nutshell:  It's an urban legend.

wiki.answers.com/.../Did_Barack_Obama_swear_on_the_Koran

www.snopes.com/politics/religion/ellison.asp

As the Snopes article points out, nobody actually swears on any religious text while taking a congressional oath of office.  Indeed, one could argue that any legal requirement to do so would violate the constitutional separation of church and State.

I find absolutely no reference whatsoever, anywhere, to Obama threatening anyone with lawsuits; not even the real nutjobs like Michael Savage are asserting this.  But, given that the 'swearing in on the Koran' is nonsense, he'd have no reason to make such a threat anyway, and there's no evidence that such heavy-handed tactics are part of his way of doing business regardless.

Moving on to Obama's voting record.  Obama has cast 68 votes *this year* - while running for president - in the senate:

http://obama.senate.gov/votes/

If you'd like to see his voting record broken down by issue, Project Vote Smart has an excellent history at this link - www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490

Frankly, at this point it's a matter of utter irrelevance whether you are republican, democrat, libertarian, communist, socialist, fascist, anarchist, green, or anything else - the simple fact is you've obviously been believing a lot of nonsense someone's thrown at you without bothering to take a look for yourself at objective, verifiable sources of information.  I find it amazing that you could figure out how to register to vote, given your apparent lack of interest in doing any kind of independent research.

You also utterly failed to address the main point of my article, which is that it really shouldn't make any difference at all what Obama's religion is, as there is no religious requirement for the presidency nor should there be - the very idea is contrary to every principle this country was founded on.

I would respectfully suggest that you sharpen your critical thinking skills and spend a little less time getting your information from people like Art Bell and Rush Limbaugh, and a little more time actually understanding how to determine what a reliable source looks like.  The voices in your head are NOT a 'reliable source.'

Thanks for posting, I look forward to hearing from you again soon.

s15farley
United States s15farley said:

Seing as he has no US birth certificate, and has yet to prove he's an American citizen, I find your argument moot. But, I do find you a compelling opponent. A rarity these days. And the fact that you Do research what you believe,regardless of political affiliation, I call you friend. Feel free to email me so we can discuss this on a less public forum. canyon_farley@yahoo.com  

I definitely would like to further continue this discussion.

lowgenius
United States lowgenius said:

Which part of "State of Hawaii Department of Health Honolulu Hawaii USA" makes the birth certificate I linked to "not a US birth certificate?"  

Just use some simple common sense, man.  You're talking about the Democratic Party here - a gigantic organization with a history stretching back to the very foundation of this country and a bankroll larger than the GDP of some pretty large countries.  Do you *really* think - does it really, really make sense to think - that after four years of pushing Obama as the Next Big Thing, nobody in that organization would think to doublecheck that the man was actually eligible for office?  Do you honestly believe that they are so short on viable candidates that the only man they could find with a hope of beating the Republicans is a guy who can't take the job?

I mean, the evidence is right there in black and white, and since it's a public record I'm pretty sure that anyone could get a copy for themselves under FOIA, but leave that aside for a minute and consider that the suggestion just doesn't make sense at all.  I haven't seen John McCain's proof of citizenship either - nor, for that matter, that of ANY president - but then I haven't needed to.

Because nobody bothers questioning the citizenship of an old white guy.

The bottom line is that this is just one more of dozens of fear-mongering tactics used by the right in an attempt to play on the prejudices and fears of their base in regards to Obama, because fear = votes.  It's unfortunate that we have come to that.  One of the framers of our government, Benjamin Franklin, once said that "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, widely considered one of the best presidents we've ever had, said famously, "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself."  This is the "land of the free and the home of the brave."

And yet, here we are, a huge percentage of us thinking of nothing BUT our fears and prejudices as we select our next president in what is unquestionably the most important election of my lifetime (I'm 38), and quite possibly since WWII at least.  Frankly, I think it's a sad commentary on our society that "the greatest nation in history" can't manage to produce any higher level of discourse and intellect than this.  

This claim of Obama's "questionable citizenship" is as empty and unfounded as all of the other claims being bandied about by his opponents, and it's just a damned shame that people seem to lack the wit to examine these kinds of claims with even the slightest of critical thinking skills.  Frankly, I have a lot more respect for the guy I overheard in my local WalMart the other day saying "I ain't votin for Obama because I don't want to [racial slur] in the White House" than people who rely on such poor excuses as these.  Sure, the guy was an ignorant bigot reflective fo the worst tendencies of American society...but he was an honest ignorant bigot.

Chad Bryant
United States Chad Bryant said:

It needs to be pointed out to the "Obama ain't no citizen!" crowd that McCain's status as "natural-born citizen" is far murkier, and enough of a quandary that the Senate felt obligated to pass a non-binding resolution in April 2008 that affirmed him as such - and even after that, it is a question that hasn't been fully answered.

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